Dragon Dictate for Mac version 2.5.2
Company: Nuance
Price: $199.99 MSRP Boxed Set, $179.99 Electronic Download
I learned how to type when I was a freshman in high school. Of course, that was on a manual typewriter. Now, decades later, I’m still typing and just as good and as fast as I did in high school. The only fly in the ointment is the fact that arthritis has raised its ugly head.
The way I’ve learned to deal with it is to take breaks and when I have to, I just stop typing for a while. However, there are other options. Amongst those options is Nuance’s Dragon Dictate for the Mac. Dragon Dictate allows the user to speak what he or she would normally type. This permits the user to continue to work without incurring any physical impact. Most Mac users who utilize an iPhone or iPad are more than likely familiar with the IOS versions of the application.
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To use Dragon Dictate, you have to have an Intel based Mac, running OS 10.6 or better and a minimum of 2 GB of RAM. Now one does not just sit down and begin to dictate without first teaching Dragon Dictate to learn your individual voice. You do this by providing the software with a sample of your speech so that it learns what your voice sounds like and your way of pronouncing different words. To input your speech, you will need to utilize a USB microphone or by using an IOS device using the Dragon Remote Microphone app. For my tests, I utilized the USB microphone headset that came with the Dragon Dictate software.
Setting up Dragon Dictate was not hard, nor was it long and cumbersome. Once I plugged in the USB microphone and selected it, I just followed the directions to insert the Dragon Dictate DVD, installed the software on my Mac, registered the software as required and followed the instructions on using the microphone. I then began creating my voice profile. Since I am the primary user, my profile was all that I needed but if other members of my family wanted to utilize Dragon Dictate, they too would need to create a profile. I was also able as the only user to install Dragon Dictate on my Macbook and copy my initial voice profile over to the Macbook and begin to utilize the software while on the road.
The Voice Profile itself only took me several minutes to read through the paragraph as provided by the software, providing a sound level and voice training for the system to utilize. As you are reading and the system is learning, the words you have read will then turn green in the dialog box. If you follow the directions, read the paragraph to include punctuation, you should be up and running in short order.
The really amazing aspect of Dragon Dictate is the ability to verbalize the command to “open” an application. A very good example is the capability while using Dragon Dictate to speak “Open Mail” and Apple Mail application opens. You can then speak “New Message” and a new message opens, which you can then follow up by speaking your text and end by telling Dragon Dictate to Send Message. Please understand that you will still have to work with the system as Dragon Dictate does not understand a pause within a sentence so you would have to say “comma” or at the end of the sentence say “period.” There are still those times that you will still have to work with your hands to move a cursor to where you want it or to open an application, but overall the ability to utilize speech is an absolute pleasure. The ability to utilize both the application on the Mac and the IOS version, just in case an idea pops into your mind while on the road or not at your desk, makes working on a project or sending an email so much easier.
The more I used Dragon Dictate, the more I liked it. I was really amazed that there was very few items that caused me any issues other than the fact that while Dragon Dictate could handle just about any word I threw at it, there was only one word that Dragon Dictate had a problem with… my last name. It was basically a 50-50 chance that something else would appear on the screen rather than my name. If Dragon Dictate could properly spell “Soliloquy”, “Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious” and “indomitable” I figured that my last name would not be a problem. Now I followed the guidance provided both in the manual and in an on-line tutorial but for some reason, Dragon Dictate still had issues with the name. However, having lived my life with everyone messing up my last name, it was a small item as far as I was concerned.
Is the program 100% accurate at all times? No, to be honest. There are items that Dragon Dictate does have issues with when you are speaking. I would say aren’t and got orange; I finally figured out I just needed to take my time. Yet I could say we’ve and it appeared as it should. It’s a learning process for both the user and for the program.
I will tell you that Nuance does provide a web page with information on Dragon Dictate for Mac, that includes a User Manual, a workbook and other information and links. If you have questions or need further information on how to use the application, take the time to check this out. I have had more fun learning what Dragon Dictate can do by using it and by reading through the User Manual, plus going to Ask The Dictator (http://www.nuance.com/dragon/ask-the-dictator/index.htmwhere) or on YouTube where video lessons are readily available.
My recommendation for those who may have issues with typing, be they medical or otherwise, or for someone who does do a lot of typing, is to consider the purchase of Dragon Dictate. The ability to sit at your computer and dictate a document, an email or whatever it is that you wish to do, is a tool really worth considering.
All in all, I give Dragon Dictate for Mac a My Mac rating of 8 out of a possible 10.
I’ve been playing around with Dragon Dictate version 4 for a few weeks now so it’s probably time I did a review. This review is for people who had never used Dragon Dictate before.
Click here for a Review of the newer ‘Dragon for Mac’ (released September 2015.)
If you are thinking about whether it is worth upgrading from version 3 check out this article. If you want to see how it compares with the built-in speech recognition in OS X Mavericks , check out this article. Finally, for an interesting history of my use of Speech Recognition since the late 1990’s leading up to the Macintosh version of Dragon, click here!
Introduction
Dragon Dictate is the Macintosh version of Dragon Naturally Speaking, the famous PC voice recognition software. It allows you to speak into your computer, and it will convert that speech into text. It’s quite hard to get your head around exactly what this feels like unless you give it a go. I’ve been using speech recognition for over 10 years now and I could not do without it. It is probably the number one timesaving piece of software I have on my computer. I write lots of talks so Dragon also helps me to do that well.
The thinking process for speaking is different to the thinking process for writing. I find it a lot easier to ‘speak’ something that will be given as an oral talk rather than write it down. That said, I use Dragon Dictate for writing tasks as well. For example I am dictating this article. I also dictate email replies. I generally launch Dragon Dictate for any piece of typing that will take me more than about 30 seconds.
First Impressions – a winner.
As a piece of software, Dragon dictate is fantastic. The user interface looks the best it ever has. It’s relatively easy to use given the complexity of what it’s trying to achieve. And best of all, look at how well it performs – perfectly! Here is a video of me using Dragon Dictate 4. This is the first time I have used this version and I have done no training beyond the compulsory six minutes of training.
Accuracy
For the last 10 years speech recognition has been all about accuracy. Accuracy crept up from 80% to 90% to 95% to 97% and so on. What this means is that even though you would talk perfectly, the computer would still make mistakes. Generally the more training you did and the better the software got and the fewer mistakes the computer would make. Sometimes training could take half an hour or an hour.
Dragon Dictate has now reached the point where I find an accuracy rating is meaningless. In my opinion the software is basically 100% accurate. What I mean by that is that if I am speaking clearly, and I am not using obscure words, I am confident that it will make no mistakes. If it does make a ‘ mistake’ when I go and replay what I have said it is usually me who made the mistake, not the computer. There are of course some very obscure names or words that it would be nearly impossible for speech recognition software to work out without reading your mind. This is how communication works. Recognition is not even 100% accurate when a human is listening to another human being because the English language can be ambiguous.
I think the next needed step forward in Dictation technology is not improvements in accuracy but the ability to add punctuation automatically. When I have tried Dragon Dictate on people who have never used it before, the hardest thing to get used to is saying ‘Full-Stop’ at the end of each sentence, and ‘Comma’ when you need a comma, and all the other commands. (See below under ‘Learning Curve’).
New Users
Up until now Dragon Dictate has been a bit hit and miss when I’ve tried it out on other people. Some have loved it, for others it produced gobbledygook. I tried Dragon Dictate version 4 on my wife and my son for this review, and they were both very impressed. So between version 1, which was the last time I tried it on a friend, and version 4, it has improved dramatically.
Here is a video of my wife using Dragon Dictate for the very first time. Note there are some pauses where I am telling her to say things like “new line”.
Here is a video of my 15 year old son using Dragon Dictate for the very first time. We have left the mistakes in so you can see how it goes. Again there are some pauses when I am coaching him!
Learning curve
Dragon Dictate does have a learning curve. There is a pretty good tutorial that comes with it, but you do need to re-train yourself on how you speak. The main thing to learn is to say “full-stop” at the end of each sentence and “comma” where you want a comma.
The other commands that I find very handy are “Begin quote” and “End quote” to put quotation marks into a sentence.
“Correct that” is what you say when you want to correct something, “new line” is the equivalent of hitting the return key.
“Scratch that” will delete the last thing that you said. “Go to end” will go the the end of the document most of the time, although sometimes it gets a little confused.
Those few commands will get you up and dictating reasonably quickly. Dragon have a’ quick reference sheet’ of commands, but it has so many commands that you won’t get your head around them all very quickly.
Another thing to keep in mind, is that Dragon Dictate will learn from you. It can be tempting to just leave all the mistakes and then go back and correct them later with your mouse. The problem with this is that Dragon Dictate will not learn from that. If however you say ‘correct that’ and go back and correct your mistakes using Dragon, it will learn from its mistakes and be more likely to recognise that word correctly in the future.
Microphones
The download version does not come with a microphone. This might not sound so bad, but if you were someone like my wife, (not very computer savvy) and you didn’t have a spare microphone lying around, the software would arrive and you would not be able to use it. Of course the simple way around this is to buy the boxed version. There doesn’t seem to be much of an indication of this on the website when you order. There is an iPhone app called “Dragon Remote Microphone” that allows you to use your iPhone as a microphone. I gave it a try and it works reasonably well.
Do not be tempted to use it with a bad microphone, e.g. your laptop built-in microphone. Here is a video of me simulating a bad microphone by holding my microphone about 1 foot from my mouth. You will need to turn the volume of your computer up quite loud to be able to hear what I am saying.
I am amazed that Dragon Dictate can recognise anything at this poor quality. It does a good job given the circumstances. Nonetheless, if this was your experience of speech recognition it would be frustrating. I can’t stress this enough, get a good microphone.
Don’t be tempted to try and use the built-in microphone on your computer. At best you will get poor results, at worst you will get so frustrated that you will be turned off speech recognition for ever. The most important thing with speech recognition is to speak clearly and to get the speech into the computer clearly. So you want to have a good microphone. Nuance have a list of approved microphones for Dragon Dictate on their website here. I’d recommend heading on over to knowbrainer.com They have a better list of microphones. If you do want to get a good microphone, make sure you get one with a USB or bluetooth connection so you can plug it into your Macintosh.
Commands
As well as dictating text into an application, you can use Dragon Dictate to control your computer. I’m not one to read a user manual, but after trying a few commands and none of them working I decided I’d better read the help file. I tried a few of the suggested shortcuts. “Search Mac for …” was meant to open up spotlight and do a computer search but it opened Quicksilver. Then when I tried to search for something else it closed Quicksilver and got confused. “Search Google for ….” worked really well. But if I say “Google search for…” it will not search.
In other words it is looking for very specific commands. Maybe that’s because if the vocabulary was too big it would think you were trying to give a command when you were dictating. The problem is that I’m not very good at remembering the specific commands. If you want to use Dragon Dictate to control your computer it looks like it could be very powerful but it would take discipline and an investment of your time. You would have to sit down and learn the commands.
Transcribe
Dragon Dictate 4 boasts a transcribe function. I tested it and found it to be both fantastic and a complete dud. Firstly I grabbed a Tim Keller talk. Tim Keller is from New York. The recording was made with him speaking into a microphone so it was very clear. It looked promising. It trained itself on the first part of the recording, prompting me to go and edit any mistakes, then it transcribed the entire talk. What it produced was complete gobbledygook. There is not even enough content there to work out what it is trying to say.
Dragon Dictate’s attempt to transcribe a talk from the internet.Secondly, I used the iPhone Dragon Dictate transcribe app. I spoke into my iPhone directly as if I was speaking into Dragon Dictate. I did this in a relatively noisy environment. When I got home and transcribed the my speaking it did it almost perfectly.
Since then, I have used the Dragon iPhone app to record my thoughts when I’m out and about, and it does a great job of recognising them when I get home. It’s actually pretty handy and a nice addition to Dragon Dictate.
Trial version
Some pieces of software give you a trial version. Sadly, there is no trial version of Dragon Dictate. This is a shame because I think some people whose speech is not be clear may be ‘incompatible’ with speech recognition software.
Thankfully though, the Nuance online store offers a 30 day money back guarantee. So if it doesn’t work you are not stuck with it. The closest thing to ‘ trying before you buy’ would be to try the OS X Mavericks built in speech recognition as I describe in a separate article, but make sure you try it with a proper microphone.
Pro’s
Great software.
Great recognition.
Dictates into any application.
You can mix up dictating and typing.
It learns from its mistakes and improves with time.
30 day money back guarantee.
Con’s
No trial version.
The upgrades are $149.
Buying Advice
If you are a first-time user I would encourage you to purchase Dragon Dictate directly from Nuance so that you can get their 30 day money back guarantee. First time users are better off buying the boxed set so you get the microphone with it.
If you are after the full version with the Microphone for $199 click here to go to the official Nuance Site.
If you click here you can get the Download only version with 10% off. If you are a new user I would not recommend this. You are better off getting the boxed version with the microphone.
If you want to upgrade your microphone from the standard one, go to knowbrainer.com. They also have a 30 day money back guarantee on all their products but don’t buy Dragon from them as they exclude Dragon Dictate from their 30 day guarantee.
If you are a student in Australia www.voicerecognition.com.au offer a student-teacher edition for $99.
If you don’t need the 30 day money back guarantee I’ve seen versions of Dragon Dictate cheaper in Australia, for example here for as low as AU$169.
STOP PRESS: I found a very cheap download only version here. Not sure how long this will be available.
Other posts on Speech recognition:
- NEW: ‘Dragon for Mac’ (Dragon Dictate 5) Review
- Dragon Dictate Version 4 vs 3 – is it worth the upgrade?
- Dragon Naturally Speaking arrives on the Macintosh!
- How to buy Macspeech Dictate in Australia
- What Microphone is the best for Speech recognition?
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Dragon Dictate Released!Macspeech dictate is renamed ‘Dragon Dictate’Dragon dictate 2.5 problemsDragon ExpressDragon Dictate version 4, is it worth the upgrade?Todd Estroffsays:June 19, 2014 at 7:43 pmI have to keep entering the serial number and password on a second Macintosh MacBook air. Do you know any way to stop this from happening also do I need to be connected to the Internet at all times when I’m dictating. This could be a major problem.
ReplyWaynesays:June 21, 2014 at 2:50 amYou don’t need to be connected to internet while dictating with Dragon Dictate.
Replytodd estroffsays:June 21, 2014 at 9:52 amthanks that helps but how do i stop having reenter the serial number and pass word????
this is very annoying
ReplyWaynesays:September 14, 2014 at 5:17 amNot sure – I’d say give dragon technical support a call.
ReplyPhil Campbellsays:September 13, 2014 at 11:53 pmHey Wayne, just bought this (for $99) on your recommendation. Hoping it works ;-)
Is the iPhone app you mentioned the same as the Dragon Dictation App? It seems to do all the text to speech work in the app itself (via Dragon’s servers). Sounds like the one you mention just records the audio to feed to your mac later? If so, I can’t spot that one in the app store.
Phil
ReplyWaynesays:September 14, 2014 at 5:12 amThe dictation app is a separate App called “Dragon Recorder”. Yes it just records your speech then you wifi it to the mac to transcribe it. I hardly ever use it but it does work.
https://itunes.apple.com/au/app/dragon-recorder/id464776856?mt=8
I think you’ll like it… but give it a good couple of weeks to train yourself on how to use it. I now dictate every talk I do.
I’m keen to hear how you go!
I use this mic:
http://www.amazon.com/Shure-WH20XLR-Dynamic-Microphone-Cardioid/dp/B0001DBZNM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=undefined&sr=8-1&keywords=shure+headset+microphone
plugged into a usb audio interface, but of overkill probably. But make sure you use a good mic.
Thanks Wayne. Just grabbed it.
ReplyLeo Lerichesays:December 20, 2014 at 5:18 pmQueston: Which version of Dragon Dictate works well with Mac 10.10 (Yosemite)?
ReplyWaynesays:December 21, 2014 at 2:34 amYou need to have Dragon Dictate 4, then do the online update to bring it to the newest version which is 4.0.6 at the time of writing this reply.
Replyjamessays:June 5, 2015 at 12:01 amI read as many reviews as possible, and still decided to give Dragon Dictate 4.0.6 a try.
I needed to transcribe a 2 person interview:
– audio quality was clear, no background noise, microphone used.
– I split the audio track into 2 files, one for the interviewer, the other the interviewee, using DD4 “Tools” (which I found very good)
– I created an ‘Interviewee’ profile and ‘trained’ DD4 using the Interviewee file only.
– I then had DD4 transcribe the entire Interviewee file.
Result: Illegible. Useless.
It would be faster to transcribe manually that to correct all the errors from DD4
I received a refund from Nuance/Digital River Ireland in about 48 hours
I ended up paying 87cents per audio minute on eLance (Debbie C, ID: corsonda359) who did an excellent, fast & accurate job.
* Note, I did not try the live voice transcription, just the transcribe from audio file.
ReplyWaynesays:June 7, 2015 at 4:43 pmYes this was my experience exactly (see the section in the article called ‘Transcribe’).
ReplyCastoragsays:July 29, 2015 at 12:33 pmSomewhere in this site there’s a number of criticisms of DD for Mac. I just left a long one and I would think this would be where it should show up– reviews.
ReplyWaynesays:August 1, 2015 at 5:40 amYes most of the criticisms are of the earlier versions. I’ve left the older articles there. The newer versions are better.
ReplyPatricia Csays:August 16, 2015 at 8:51 amThank you so much for the review, and the link to the sale page. I sat on the page for a few minutes deciding and got another 20% off. Paid $79 for Dragon for Mac.
I am trying this out for transcribing multiple 1-hour usability test interviews (video/audio files). This offer reduced the risk enough for me to make a purchase decision on the spot.
Dragon Speech For Mac
By the way, if anyone else is looking at Dragon for this purpose, you will have to use the “parrot” technique. Nuance describes this in helpfiles on their site. You still have to sit through all the interviews real time again, but it minimizes the typing aspect, at least, which can take 2-3x longer.
Many companies including Nuance are working on solving this problem. The best solution presently, if you don’t want to dictate the interviews to the computer, is a transcription service like Rev https://www.rev.com – they have good proprietary software and charge $1 a minute.
Another company to watch is Koemei https://koemei.com/product – they make video and audio files searchable with their transcription software. They provide APIs and at least one company has proven the tech can work for this purpose (via a mic array), unfortunately Koemi bought them and has shelved the product for now.
I hope this is useful to your readers.
ReplyGina Haydensays:September 14, 2015 at 11:08 pmThanks for a great article – the most useful one I’ve read so far! It’s really thorough, helpful and has great links. Cheers.
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